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	<description>Sharpening my knife</description>
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		<title>By: pushmedia1</title>
		<link>http://www.ambrosini.us/wordpress/2009/10/that-was-dissappointing/comment-page-1/#comment-8035</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ve never heard the autonomy point articulated very well.  Also, its relationship to income inequality isn&#039;t obvious to me.

Your use of finance to show increased riskiness of households is interesting, too.  I need to look  at what you did more closely, but I was under the impression that all risk models are consumption models at base.  Risk, or at least the kind households care about, is just the covariance of consumption with the discount factor.  Households may be taking on higher default risk so they can smooth consumption further.  So that sort of risk might not translate into the kind of risk households care about.

I don&#039;t know the Merton model, but I suspect even there higher default risk isn&#039;t always bad.  Start-ups have high default risk, but we think giving them resources is a good idea.

Forgetting models, though, isn&#039;t important to keep in mind there&#039;s two parties to this increased debt of households?  I assume banks know they&#039;re leveraging up their customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve never heard the autonomy point articulated very well.  Also, its relationship to income inequality isn&#8217;t obvious to me.</p>
<p>Your use of finance to show increased riskiness of households is interesting, too.  I need to look  at what you did more closely, but I was under the impression that all risk models are consumption models at base.  Risk, or at least the kind households care about, is just the covariance of consumption with the discount factor.  Households may be taking on higher default risk so they can smooth consumption further.  So that sort of risk might not translate into the kind of risk households care about.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the Merton model, but I suspect even there higher default risk isn&#8217;t always bad.  Start-ups have high default risk, but we think giving them resources is a good idea.</p>
<p>Forgetting models, though, isn&#8217;t important to keep in mind there&#8217;s two parties to this increased debt of households?  I assume banks know they&#8217;re leveraging up their customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.ambrosini.us/wordpress/2009/10/that-was-dissappointing/comment-page-1/#comment-8033</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, thanks for pointing that out.  I removed that section - I&#039;m willing to concede the price-index for poor versus rich argument (though I should visit that someday critically), since the other points I want to bring up still stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, thanks for pointing that out.  I removed that section &#8211; I&#8217;m willing to concede the price-index for poor versus rich argument (though I should visit that someday critically), since the other points I want to bring up still stand.</p>
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		<title>By: pushmedia1</title>
		<link>http://www.ambrosini.us/wordpress/2009/10/that-was-dissappointing/comment-page-1/#comment-8032</link>
		<dc:creator>pushmedia1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>swong, usually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>swong, usually.</p>
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		<title>By: pushmedia1</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link Mike.  If prices are falling then real incomes are rising, I&#039;m not sure I understand why that&#039;s a substitution effect.  The point is that if the stuff people buy is cheaper (in general) then people are richer.

Is your point that &quot;autonomy&quot; increasing goods are getting more expensive?  Perhaps you need to do a Broda and Romalis and build a price index but weight for autonomy-increasingness.  Is there some objective measure of autonomy-increasingness?  You might be on to something; education and health care have gotten more expensive (but have their autonomy-increasing components?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link Mike.  If prices are falling then real incomes are rising, I&#8217;m not sure I understand why that&#8217;s a substitution effect.  The point is that if the stuff people buy is cheaper (in general) then people are richer.</p>
<p>Is your point that &#8220;autonomy&#8221; increasing goods are getting more expensive?  Perhaps you need to do a Broda and Romalis and build a price index but weight for autonomy-increasingness.  Is there some objective measure of autonomy-increasingness?  You might be on to something; education and health care have gotten more expensive (but have their autonomy-increasing components?).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.ambrosini.us/wordpress/2009/10/that-was-dissappointing/comment-page-1/#comment-8029</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave it &lt;a href=&quot;http://rortybomb.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/inequality-forum-at-cato-unbound/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a try&lt;/a&gt;.   I mentioned the idea of, ugh, confusing a price effect with a wealth effect.  I need a shower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave it <a href="http://rortybomb.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/inequality-forum-at-cato-unbound/" rel="nofollow">a try</a>.   I mentioned the idea of, ugh, confusing a price effect with a wealth effect.  I need a shower.</p>
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		<title>By: swong</title>
		<link>http://www.ambrosini.us/wordpress/2009/10/that-was-dissappointing/comment-page-1/#comment-8028</link>
		<dc:creator>swong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is time the sole input in calculating leisure value?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is time the sole input in calculating leisure value?</p>
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